USA West Coast – California

USA WEST COAST

CALIFORNIA

California has had a long history of mountain fire fighting, but I will make no attempt to summarize it here. I have, however, collected some interesting tidbits, and I present them below. Some useful references include The California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection( Cal Fire), which contains a history of fire fighting in California and references to the state’s Air Attack Bases and a 2007 newspaper article (The Union Democrat) that describes fifty years of firefighting in California.

Very useful is Frederick A. Johnsen’s video book Fire Bombers in Action, published by Specialty Press and Tom Janney’s “Airtankers, An Historic Overview”, pages 12-15 in CFPA News, Aug 2012, The California Fire Pilots Association newsletter. The late Linc Alexander’s e-book Firebomber into Hell contains a chapter on fighting fires in California.

More details on the aircraft listed below can be found by searching for the Bureau Number at the Warbirds Research Group and elsewhere in this archive.

USFS Regions and Letter Designations

California was in U.S. Forest Service Region 5, thus the aircraft were designated with the letter E (Johnsen 2010).

U.S. Companies Associated with Air Tankers: California

Below I discuss some aerial spray companies based in California that owned and operated some of the TBM Avengers that eventually came to New Brunswick. I spent some time collecting information from the Web and from members of various online discussion groups. The results are not exhaustive, and should be viewed as only a beginning.

Frederick A. Johnsen’s 2010 video book Fire Bombers in Action presents a list of U.S. companies that had fire bombers. For California, these are (those in bold are mentioned in the text):

10 Tanker Air Carrier, Victoriaville
Aero Atlas, Red Bluff
Aero Enterprises Inc., Willows
Aero Union Corp., Chico
AJ Air Tankers, Van Nuys
Cisco Aircraft, Lancaster
Columbia Flying Service, Columbia
Daro Inc., San Clemente
Ewing Aviation, Los Angeles
Fastaway Air Service, Long Beach
George C. Abell, Topanga
Hemet Valley Air Service, Hemet
Hills Flying Service, Chester and Placerville
Ostaire Flying Service, Ukiah
P&B Aviation, Red Bluff
Rector Air Service, Chino
Riverside Aircraft, Riverside
Routh Aircraft, Ramona and Paso Robles
Sierra Aviation, Porterville
Sis-Q Flying Service, Montague and Santa Rosa
TBM, Inc., Bakersfield and Tulare
Wen Inc., Porterville
Willows Flying Service, Willows

Also discussed below are:
Craig Aero Service, Buttonwillow
Jensen Dusting & Planting Company, Jensen Airport, Sacramento [There is an excellent history of Jensen and his airstrip HERE.]
Sonora Flying Service, Columbia

Cisco Aircraft, Lancaster (California Insecticide Company)

Founder James L. Betts (Obituary)

I found this obituary at http://www.stablejet.com/in-loving-memory.html, but the link is no longer active.

In Loving Memory of my father, Captain James Lynden Betts. At the end of his career Jim had over 40,000 logged with almost all “Flying low and slow”. Born in Columbus Ohio, he fell in love with flying at 10 years old. He worked every job possible to pay for his flying lessons. In 1939, he was hired by Steve Whitman as a flying instructor in Oshkosh Wisconsin. An article in the Columbus Dispatch stated, that at the time, he was the youngest flight instructor in the United States.

Jim joined the fight as soon as war was declared and flew TBM Avengers until about halfway through the war when he lost his flight status after a navy doctor mistakenly said he had a heart murmur. He then joined the infantry and fought in the pacific and the Philippines.

After the war Jim found work as a crop duster. He bounced around the USA spraying with various operators and then moved to Lancaster California where he opened his own business, CISCO (California Insecticide Company). He bought cheap Stearman’s and built his fleet to over 10 aircraft. Seeing there was a need for additional fire fighting Aviation assets, Jim purchased 3 TBM Avengers and one PB4Y2 and converted them all to water tankers. He quickly got contracts from the California Division of Forestry. Jim operated this company successfully until 1962 when he sold it to a friend.

The CISCO Avengers

These are some or maybe all of the Avengers that flew for CISCO.

N7850C / #E83 / 69355 / 1963
N8397H / #E? / 69459 / 1963
N8398H / #E? / 53607 / 1963 / [to Hicks & Lawrence as FZYC and ACAM as static display]
N9307Z / #E82 / 86091 / 1962-1964 /  [to Norfolk as CF-AYL]
N9564Z / #E56 / 91388 / 1963
N9569Z / 91436 / 1963 / [There is an image at Air-Britain Photographic Images Collection by Dave Welch of this as a hulk, with the names Buehner and CISCO on the side]
N9584Z / 85882 / 1963-1964
N9586Z / 85886 / 1963
N9590Z / #E81 [#77 in image] / 91733 / 1962-1963
N9595C / #E67 / 53479 /  1962-1964

Craig Aero Service, Buttonwillow

Danny Wayne Craig was a crop duster who owned Craig Aero Service in Buttonwillow for many years in the 1970s. 47C and 33Z went to Stewart Aviation of Moses Lake, Washington, and subsequently flew in New Brunswick in 1981 and 1982.

Several TBMs bounced around between Craig Aero, Sonora Flying Service and Stewart Aviation.

N6447C / 53575 / 1977 [to Stewart Av.]
N7226C / 85938 / 1977 [see story below]
N9433Z / 91586 / 1977 [to Stewart Av.]
N9586Z / 85886 / 1975-1977

Hemet Valley Flying Service, Hemet

Hemet Valley FS supplied four Avengers to the spray program in 1971 and three in 1972 for a total of six (only one, #E52 – N9434Z – sparyed both years. I list 15 Hemet Valley FS TBMs below. Five of these were eventually sold to Hillcrest and then in 1976 to FPL. HVFS had at least 15 TBM’s over its existence. Tom Janney lists 7 as being destroyed prior to any being sold off. “When the S-2 program began, the TBM started getting phased out in 1974. By 1975, there were enough S-2s converted to knock them off the roster for good.” (Tom Janney, Jan 3, 2013)

Here is a list of 15 HVFS Avengers by tail number:

#? / N66475 / 69344
#E37 / N6825C / 85883
#E52 / N9434Z / 86090
#E68 / N5168V / 53592
#E69 / N9830C / BuNo ?
#E70 / N5170V / 53886
#E71 / N7229C / 86195
#E72 / N3357G / 53858
#E73 / N9082Z / 53727
#E74 / #E56 / N7833C / 91289
#E75 / N3356G / 85844
#E76 / N9548Z / 91598
#E95 / N9860C / 86118
#E96 / N9679C / 69293
#E97 / N7161C / 86064

Hemet Valley Flying Service lineup, Hemet Ca., 1965, Photo courtesy of the Steve Whitby Collection Posted by ? Stein (Lt51506), Mar 2011 to Airtanker Memories, WIX.

Hemet Valley Flying Service lineup, Hemet, CA, 1965. Photo courtesy of the Steve Whitby Collection.
Posted by ? Stein, March 2011 to the Airtanker Memories thread, WIX.

N3356G / #E75 / 85844 / 1963-1970  [did not fly in New Brunswick]
N3357G / #E72 / 53858 / Hemet Valley FS / Hillcrest / [flew in New Brunswick in 1971; FPL #72 #4 (GFPR)]
N5168V / #E68 / 53592 / Hemet Valley FS / Hillcrest / [flew in New Brunswick in 1972; FPL #68 #15 (GFPQ)]
N5170V / #E70 / 53886 / Hemet Valley FS / 1960-1962 / Crashed while firebombing near Beaumont, CA, 22 July 1962 [Found in Goodall 2014, Grumman section] [did not fly in New Brunswick]
N66475 / #? / 69344 / 1971 / Ball Ralston FS, Hillsboro, OR / AV Aircraft, Deming, NM / Hemet Valley FS, (wfu stored Stockton, CA, 1974) [did not fly in New Brunswick]
N6825C / #E37 / 85883 / Cal-Nat / Hemet Valley FS / 1969-72 / Crashed in 1971 [flew in New Brunswick in 1971]
N7161C / #E97 / 86064 / Hemet Valley / Hillcrest / FPL #97 #19 (GFPO). My good friend, Bob Hyslop ( who recently passed away) was the pilot ot that TBM when it crashed in ’83. One of the prop blades separated from the hub shortly after take-off. The vibration shook the remaining 2 blades off soon afterward and in the trees it went. One of the blades from it is now in the lounge of the Truro Flying Club in Debert, NS ( a former WW2 mosquito bomber base). [Posted to Firebombers 24 May 2014 by Brad MacKay.]
N7229C / #E71 / 86195 / Hemet Valley FS / 1959-71 / Crashed in 1971 [flew in New Brunswick in 1971]
N7833C / #E56 #E74 / 91289 / Hemet Valley FS / Hillcrest / [flew in New Brunswick in 1972; FPL #74 #17 (GFPN)]
N9082Z / #E73 / 53727 / 1963-1972 [did not fly in New Brunswick]
N9434Z / #E52 / 86090 / 1968-1973 / [flew in New Brunswick in 1971 and 1972; to FPL as GFPP]
N9548Z / #E76 / 91598 / 1966-1972 [to Reeder; did not fly in New Brunswick]
N9679C / #E96 / 69293 Unknown history or dates. Is noted as destroyed. “On July 20, 1968 the TBM-3E borate bomber Tanker 96 flown by 29 year old Robert Morrison was working on a hundred acre fire in the San Jacinto Mountains near the town of Idyllwild, California. While making a low pass up the smoke filled south fork of the San Jacinto River canyon to drop the load of borate, the converted Navy bomber crashed killing the pilot. The airtanker, the General Motors TBM-3E Avenger N9679C formally BuNo 69293 was owned by Hemet Valley Flying Service.” See the pictures of the wreck HERE (Joe Idoni). Watch a 21 minute Youtube video of a detailed visit to the crash site in 2011 HERE. [did not fly in New Brunswick]
N9830C / #E69 / BuNo ? / Hemet Valley FS / Crashed on 5 July 1959 near Redlands, CA. Pilot was Donald M. Doughty, age 40 who was presumably killed. This Grumman TBM-3E departed from Hemet-Ryan Airport on a fire fighting mission. See the 12-minute 2014 Youtube video HERE. I have not been able to find the BuNo of this one. [did not fly in New Brunswick]
N9860C /#E95 / 86118 / Hemet Valley FS / 1966-1970. Crashed and destroyed during fire bombing run near Ramona, CA, Sept. 4, 1970. [did not fly in New Brunswick]

FPL 52 72_ferrying

FPL #72 GFPP and FPL #52 GFPR ferrying, New Brunswick, mid-1970s. Both flew under those former HVFS numbers in 1976 and 1977. GFPP crashed in 1977. [Don McKnight]

Dad looking over the flightline, Hemet, Ca May 1970 Posted by ? Stein (Lt51506), Mar 2011 to Airtanker Memories, WIX.

Dad looking over the flightline, Hemet, CA, May 1970.
Posted by ? Stein, Mar 2011 to the Airtanker Memories thread, WIX.

Visit to Ryan Air Attack Base

23 Nov 2010, by Phil Schmidt, Valle Vista (near Hemet), California)

I’m eager to relay to you my visit to Ryan Air Attack Base, Saturday, Nov 20th. I had stopped last week to make arrangements to see Bob Forbes about TBM history. He works out of the base in Ramona seventy miles south of here two days a week, then in Hemet on Fri/Sat.

It seemed somewhat ironic that there was a light sweet rain falling as I walked into the small Ryan Base office. After what these Hero Firefighters have been through this past decade on the numerous So. Cal. firestorms, it seemed strangely quiet and relaxed with silent phones and radios.

I was greeted again by Mike Venable, Fire Pilot for #73 Grumman S-2T Turboprop Tanker Bomber. His father Jim Venable started Hemet Valley Flying Service back in the ’50s. Also enjoyed meeting I believe Deen Ohel, Fire Pilot for #72 Tanker. He said if it was about TBMs, I definitely wanted to talk to Bob Forbes!  I was escorted back to the next small building they call the “Mole Hole”, as per the desk plaque attached to the door.

Bob recalled flying  #E58 Tanker for TBM, Inc. on fires until it was sold to Hillcrest Aircraft in Lewiston, Idaho. [I] enjoyed hearing how in he ferried the TBM to land at the airport in Lewiston for delivery to Jerry Wilson, owner. Jerry told him, “No, you can’t park it here. You need to fly it over to our overhaul shop down on the river in Clarkston”. He chuckled about landing it on that “gravel road strip” down by the river. I said yes, that was the one I dragged with a tractor to keep down the puncture weeds. After subsequent restoration as “Georgia Peach” with several owners and shipments to the UK, New Zealand, and finally Queensland, Australia it is now owned by Randal McFarlane.

Then looking at the photo of Hemet Valley FS #71 N7229C, Bob recalled the engine fire and crash landing by Pilot John Chase. They were fighting a fire near Lake Pyru when a call came on the radio from Chase that he was having engine trouble and would try to make it to the Santa Paula landing strip. His radio apparently cut off when the R2600 engine exploded. Flames where coming right back over the windshield like “in a John Wayne movie”. He had to ditch in a field somewhere around Ojai. As he pulled back the canopy and jumped out the fire instantly singed off half of his mustache. As he ran across the plowed field with his parachute pack slapping his backside he thought he was being encouraged to run faster. Adrenaline just takes over.

Sis-Q Flying Service, Santa Rosa, California

Sis-Q supplied five Avengers to the spray program in 1971 and 1972. Five were eventually sold to FPL in 1974; these, together with six from Johnson, were FPL’s first eleven TBMs. The company was incorporated in 1960 (see here).

Sis-Q’s “hangars and offices are adjacent to the Sonoma Air Attack Base. Sis Q supplies pilots and planes stationed at the Sonoma base as well as crews and 16 additional tankers for other bases located in California, Oregon. Arizona and South America. Planes and pilots are under contract to the state from July 1 to Oct. 15 or “until fall rains hit to end the season.”” [Source: Daily Independent Journal, San Rafael, California, Saturday, September 6, 1975,
Page 42.]

N1369N / #E36 E27 8 / 85715 / TBM Inc #E36 1963-69 / Sis-Q / #E36, later #E27 1970-72 / To FPL as GLEF FPL 1974
N68663 / #E28 E25 / 53334 / Air Spray Ltd Alberta (FKPJ) / Klamath Aircraft Oregon N68663 / Sis-Q California #E28 1969-72 / To FPL as GLEG 1974 crashed Dunphy New Brunswick 4 Jul 1975
N7032C / #112 E32 3 / 85460 / Richardson Aviation Washington #112 1963-72 / SisQ California #30? / To Evergreen Quebec as GFPS 1975 / FPL 1976
N7961C / #E92 E24 24 / 69323 / Daro Inc #E92 later #24 1963-70 / Sis-Q California 1970 / To FPL as GLEJ 1974
N9078Z / #E98 E26 / 53307   Daro Inc California #E98 1963-70 / Sis-Q California #E26 1970-72 / To FPL as GLEI 1974, crashed Dunphy New Brunswick 8 May 1975
N9711Z / #E46 E33 20 / 53697 / RCN / Sierra + Wen + P&B as #E46 / Sis-Q #E36, later #33 1969 / To FPL as GLEH 1974

Sonora Flying Service, Columbia

N6826C / # 607 #7  / 86244 / Sonora FS  / John P. Lippott, Salmon, Idaho, 1963-1966 / Idaho Aircraft Co, Boise, Idaho, 1969-1972 / To Conair as FAGN #607 1972-77
N7226C [see below]
N9433Z / #C56 / 91586 / Sonora FS CA 1963-64 / Sonora Aviation NV 1966-69 / Capitol Aire NV 1970-72 / Craig Aero CA 1977 / Stewart WA 1984

An article by Chris Bateman of The Union Democrat  of Columbia, California,  “Fly-in marks 50 years of firefighting” gives an interesting history of Sonora Flying Service and one of its TBMs, N7226C (26 Charlie). The article is presented below in edited form.

Fly-in marks 50 years of firefighting

By CHRIS BATEMAN
The Union Democrat
June 15, 2007

The Fly-in and its TBM, N7226C

… the guest of honor will be a former U.S. Navy TBM Avenger that fought fires at the Columbia Air Attack Base during its first years of operation after once sinking two Japanese cruisers on one day. Now owned by Idaho pilot Danny Summers, the single-engined torpedo bomber was converted to drop 400-gallon loads of borate on forest fires by Sonora Flying Service in 1957. It was then contracted to be part of the state’s brand-new firefighting fleet at Columbia in 1958 and 1959 and spent 15 years in the fire service before becoming a crop duster in the mid-1970s. Summers has since converted it back to torpedo bombing configuration.

TBMs weren’t the first fire bombers at Columbia; Stearman biplanes were. By the early 1970s the old torpedo bombers had been replaced by safer, twin-engined S-2s. But during the late 1950s and 1960s, the pioneer years of aerial firefighting, TBMs were the heart of the Columbia fleet.
The prominent air attack base alum’s visit this weekend will be part of a weekend-long tribute to aerial firefighting at Columbia.

The origins of Sonora Flying Service

A open-cockpit biplane made the first-ever firefighting flight out of Columbia Airport. On July 28, 1957, a radial-engined Stearman dropped 150 gallons of borate mix onto a “highly dangerous” fire … Bought and outfitted for fire bombing by Sonora Flying Service partners Coeur and Bob Roberts, the Stearman had been at Columbia Airport for only a day when it was called into action by the U.S. Forest Service.

Milo Peltzer, an aerial firefighting historian living in Porterville, says the Forest Service contracted with Sonora Flying Service in 1957 to conduct aerial fire attacks at the rate of $175 per hour of flight time. In September, the Columbia-based Stearman and three more attack planes, the paper reported, “flew 100 sorties” in stopping a forest fire on Mt. Provo, near Tuolumne. By late October, Roberts and Coeur had picked up two surplus TBM Navy torpedo bombers in a government auction in Arizona for $4,000 apiece.

The Sonora Flying Service partners had seen the future of firefighting, and it was in the air. “We look back on the 1957 air tanker experience with considerable feeling of accomplishment,” Roberts wrote in a Jan. 2, 1958, letter to State Forester F.H. Raymond. Later, he spelled out plans for a large, more efficient attack base at Columbia.

Thus ended the first of 50 years of aerial firefighting at Columbia Airport. As the chill of winter descended on Columbia Airport in early ’58, plans for establishment of a California Division of Forestry air base were well under way. When the fire season began, Columbia was one of a dozen CDF bases to open statewide.

Today Cal Fire’s statewide fleet includes 23 S-2Ts, 11 choppers and 14 fire-spotting air attack planes. Eleven Helitac and 14 Air Attack bases are open. Columbia is one of only two (the other is in Hemet) combined Helitac-Air Attack bases and one of only three (along with Hemet and Porterville) of the 1958 bases still open. And the $175 per-hour flying time cost cited by Sonora Flying Service? It’s shot up to $2,600 for an S2-T. Of course the new tanker carries 1,200 gallons of retardant to the Stearman’s 150.

Wings from the past

This weekend’s Father’s Day Fly-In celebrates the first 50 years of aerial firefighting in Columbia Airport. Coeur and Roberts’ first Stearman won’t be on hand, but present and accounted for will be 26 Charlie, one of the two TBM dive bombers the pair bought at Litchfield Park Naval Air Base in Goodyear, Ariz. back in 1957.

N7226C Sonora Flying Service #61. Posted by Dan Dineen 30 Sep 13 to TBMs - Mil & Civ.

N7226C Sonora Flying Service #61. Posted by Dan Dineen 30 Sep 13 to TBMs – Mil & Civ.

Jim Martinelli … knows the Idaho pilot who now owns 26 Charlie, named for the tail end of the “N Number” on its fuselage —N7226C. And Danny Summers agreed to fly the old TBM home for the Fly-In. The two TBMs, outfitted for borate drops, were on duty together in Columbia for the fire seasons of 1958 and ’59. Faster and with a larger, 400-gallon tank capacity, the dive bombers were far superior to the old Stearmans as firefighting planes.

Peltzer, who probably knows more about aerial firefighting and air attack planes than anybody, said 26 Charlie may have made 300 drops during its years at Columbia and thousands more in an air attack career that lasted until 1973. “That TBM is an old friend of mine,” he said, remembering that the Sonora Flying Service partners split in 1960 and the plane ended up in Porterville as part of Coeur’s new firm, Sierra Aviation. “I ground trained on that plane. Went as far as taxiing, but I never flew it.”

Peltzer went on to become a firefighting pilot and 26 Charlie, under various state and federal contracts, fought fires in California and other western states. It ended its air attack career in 1973, last stationed at the Carson City, Nev., under a U.S. Forest Service contract. [Sonora Aviation? – ed.]

TBMs replaced

Meanwhile, 26 Charlie in the mid-1970s retired to the fields, crop dusting in Bakersfield, Yakima and Moses Lake, Wash., before its value as a WW II warbird rescued it from the fields forever. Summers, who bought the plane in 1991, has restored the TBM to its original, torpedo-dropping condition and has won warbird restoration honors at the nationally famous fly-in at Oshkosh, Wis.

A bit of history will accompany 26 Charlie to Columbia.

This TBM, stationed on the USS Wasp flown by Navy pilot Harry Baderow, sunk two Japanese cruisers at Kuri Harbor on July 26, 1945 — shortly before the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings ended the war. The dive bomber later helped ferry Red Cross supplies into Japan and flew over the USS Missouri as surrender papers were signed.

Baderow is now dead, but he lived long enough for Summers to give him a ride in the reconditioned TBM a few years ago. And come Fly-In time, along with its war record, 26 Charlie will bring back colorful memories of fighting fires during Columbia Airport’s earliest days as an air attack base.

Here is the Warbird Registry history of N7226C (85938)

[Sonora Flying Service, Columbia, CA]
Sierra Aviation, Porterville, CA, 1963.
– Registered as N7226C.
– Flew as tanker #E44.

Sonora Aviation Tanker 44 at Carson City, Nevada, in August 1968. Wm.T. Larkins photo

Sierra Aviation Tanker 44 at Carson City, Nevada, in August 1968. Wm.T. Larkins photo

Wen Inc, Portersville, CA, 1963-1964.
Whirly Birds Inc, Portersville, CA, 1966-1969
Capitol Aire Inc, Carson City, NV, 1970-1972.
Craig Aero Service, Buttonwillow, CA, 1977.
Stewart Aviation Inc, Moses Lake, WA, 1984-1988. [Did not fly in NB under Stewart]

N7226C Craig Aero Services_Mar1979c_MKyburz

N7226C, Craig Aero Service, March 1979, Martin Kyburz, as it appears on the Warbird Registry page.

Danny Summers/Summers Farm & Ranch Inc, Sugar City, ID, May 1990-2002.
– Restored to airworthy, Jerome, ID, 1992-1996.
– First flight, 1996.
– Flown as 85938/308X.

TBM Inc, Tulare, California

T.B.M., INC. (Company Profile, part)
P. O. Box 868
Tulare, California
FOUNDED:
 June 1957 by Henry Moore, Doug Gandy, Harvey Miller, Bob Bunch, Milt Watts, Bob Phillips, Wayland Fink, Jim French, and Elmer Johnson.
GENERAL:
 T.B.M., Inc. has been in the airtanker business since 1959 and has provided continuous state and federal airtanker services since that time. In 1972, T.B.M. acquired a majority interest in Butler Aircraft Company. T.B.M.’s first aircraft, the General Motors torpedo bomber TBM, was purchased at a military surplus sale.
COMPANY OPERATION:
 Aerial firefighting and aircraft maintenance.
AREAS CONTRACTED:
 Fresno, CA; Fort Smith, AK; Silver City, NM; Minden, NV; West Yellowstone, MT; Fort Huachuca, AZ; Pocatello, ID; Ramona, CA

N6827C / #E58 / TBM Inc.

Other TBM Inc. Avengers included #60 N1366N, N1368N, #36 N1369N and N6829C.

Posted to TBMs - Mil & Civ 21 Nov 2014 by Dan Dineen.

TBM Inc. #58, N6827C. Posted to TBMs – Mil & Civ 21 Nov 2014 by Dan Dineen.

N1366N TBM Inc #E60_KSBA-SantaBarbaraCA_Aug70 pbs

This one was taken on August 2, 1970. Location … was the USFS Air Attack Base at Santa Barbara Municipal Airport (KSBA), Goleta, CA, and Hank Moore’s TBM Inc. was still the registered owner. If you look carefully you can make out the TBM logo where the gunner used to sit. … N1366N eventually went to Aero Union and was destroyed on August 18, 1973, when the pilot retracted the gear early and she went over a cliff at the end of the runway at Placerville, CA. Pilot was OK, airplane was overloaded, and I suspect that he bounced her into the air at the end of the runway, said a prayer, retracted the gear, and didn’t have enough juice to climb out. [TBM Inc TBMs, Steve Nation, pers. comm, 2011.]

One response to “USA West Coast – California

  1. Great collection of facts and stories. Thanks!
    TBMs were always “underpowered”. The Navy only used them for torpedo work…never as “dive bombers”. The great SBD was probably the best anti-ship weapon of the war. A true dive-bomber. One plane only rarely “sank” a ship as stated. The Navy did a great job of team work to do that.
    I flew a few tankers in 27 years. Finished up with tanker 70. (not the TBM 70 in the picture but a DC-7. Had a good time. Interesting too.

    Hank Moore ,TBM, was a fine boss and man. As were all the others I was privileged to work for.

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